Art. 0012 Rev. 1836 Hazard: phototoxic

Talk:Persian hogweed

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Neutrality: pest or emblem?

The following discussion has been closed. No consensus to change the lead: it describes the spice, the emblem and the weed.

The lead calls the palm a species of very high risk in its first paragraph. In Tromsø it is part of the city’s soul: we have named a revue, a film prize and a centre for the elderly after it. Please move the risk material further down and add a section on its benefits. — Palmens venn (talk) 10:58, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Support. The seed sells in Oslo at a very good price. That is value, and the lead should say so. — InvisibleHand (talk) 11:02, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

The seed that sells in Oslo is imported from Iran, where it is gathered by hand and getting scarce. The seed on every verge in Tromsø sells for nothing; Artsdatabanken thinks the imported kind too dear for anyone to sow. The lead already says both. — Rosa L. (talk) 11:07, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I have met the roots. They do not know which city they are in. — Old Mole (talk) 11:10, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Could we compromise on “naturalised”? It has been here since 1836, longer than any of us. — Ed. Bernstein (talk) 11:12, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

“Naturalised” and “invasive” are not alternatives. Very high risk in three assessments running (2012, 2018, 2023); median lifetime in Norway at least 650 years. Sourced. — Kingfisher (talk) 11:15, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Closing. The palm and the weed both stay in the lead; the emblem has a section of its own, In culture. — Catchment Committee (talk) 11:18, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

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